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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;What about in Luke 16:19-31 when Jesus is talking about the rich man and Lazarus the poor man outside his gateway? god bless you and grace be to you thank you for this article. but i just had this one question&#8221;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;What about in Luke 16:19-31 when Jesus is talking about the rich man and Lazarus the poor man outside his gateway? god bless you and grace be to you thank you for this article. but i just had this one question&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>This question was user-submitted in response to the article: </em><a href="../do-you-go-straight-to-heaven-when-you-die/">Do you go straight to Heaven when you die?</a></p>
<p>I know some of you are thinking about the <strong>parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus</strong> and wondering how that relates to our previous article on what happens after death. Well lets read that parable and see what is going on&#8230; first of all, if your reading this article after clicking a link from a blog or from a search result off Google or Bing then please read the first article that spawned this article. It lays serious ground work for this article and it is all based on scripture. Want to know where your loved ones are? The Bible has encouragement and presents the only true picture:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ebibleanswers.com/blog/do-you-go-straight-to-heaven-when-you-die/">Do you go straight to Heaven when you die?</a></p>
<p><span id="more-44"></span>We pick up the story in Luke 16:19-31</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">19) <em>There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">20) <em>And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">21) <em>And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man&#8217;s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">22) <em>And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham&#8217;s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">23) <em>And in hades he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">24) <em>And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">25) <em>But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">26) <em>And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">27) <em>Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father&#8217;s house:</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">28) <em>For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">29) <em>Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">30)<em> And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">31) <em>And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead&#8221;</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>First of all we must establish whether this is literal or not&#8230; are all parables in the Bible to be taken literally? Well a parable is nothing more than an allegory used to present a point more clearly. When Christ said it is easier for a Camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of God He was using an allegorical sense and did not intend it to be interpreted literally. If we take this saying literally we have some serious problems to deal with, first of all any rich men such as Abraham could not be saved because as far as I know no camel has yet been able to go through the eye of a needle. Yet many rich men throughout the Bible were Godly, such as Abraham and Job.</p>
<p>Also, there are parables in the Bible of forests talking to each other and even setting up rulers among them. Are we to take this literal and believe that trees talk? Absolutely not! Parables are meant to present a specific point and the symbols used in the parable are to not to be taken any further then they were meant&#8230; that is to serve their allegorical sense.  So if all through the Bible you have a stream of one thought and then a parable seems to indicate the complete opposite you go with what the whole Bible says because the Bible does not contradict itself, ever!</p>
<p>Having said all this, is their yet grounds to take any of the parable, or perhaps the whole parable in a literal sense?</p>
<p>The word &#8220;parable&#8221; comes from the Greek word<em> parabole</em>, which means<em> &#8220;to place beside,&#8221;</em> or <em>&#8220;to draw up alongside.&#8221;</em><br />
Jesus used  parables to unfold great truths. He placed a simple story alongside a profound  truth, and the profound was illumined by the simple. Some people question whether or not this really was a parable and to be honest there is really no reason to doubt that it is indeed a parable. Here is why, the formula used, <em>&#8220;there was a certain man&#8221;</em> is used repeatedly in the gospel of Luke in numerous parables. For instance in <strong>Luke 16:1</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;And he said also unto his disciples, <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">There was a certain rich man</span></strong>, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods.&#8221;</span></em></p></blockquote>
<p>Notice the same exact terminology Jesus uses in Luke 16:19&#8230; so the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus is not an actual event that took place in real life. This introduction is used all through Luke: 10:33; 12:16; 13:6; 14:16; 15:11; 16:1; 19:12; 20:9</p>
<p>Also noteworthy, is that at least a few times Jesus would take popular parables of His day and turn them upside down and point out an important truth. This parable of the rich man and Lazarus is one of those times. This story was actually a well known parable used by the Rabbis, however their version was that the poor man ended up in hell and the rich man ended up in Abraham&#8217;s bosom. Jesus just took their own story turned it upside down and gave it an unexpected twist. (Note: this is not speculation. This can be found in many historians records of Jewish history during this period)</p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>The Recipients of the Parable</strong></span><br />
Among the numerous parables Jesus told which were primarily directed at the Pharisees were the parables of the lost sheep, that of the lost coin, the lost son, and then of the unjust steward. The story of the rich man and Lazarus is part of this group of parables directed at the Pharisees, while their were others there we find this was to whom Christ was specifically speaking.</p>
<p>We see in each of these parables that the lesson is the same, you can find that lesson in Luke 15:7:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">over one sinner that repenteth</span></strong>, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>In each of the above parables their is rejoicing in the recovery of that which was lost.  Jesus attempted to present the message in many different ways so that the Pharisees would realize their true condition and repent. Over 100 times in the gospels we find the term <em>&#8220;the kingdom of God&#8221;</em> or <em>&#8220;the kingdom of heaven is likened unto&#8221;</em>&#8230;</p>
<p>We will look at Josephus&#8217;s comments on this in a moment but first lets take one last look at who Christ was addressing this parable to and the consequences of that observation. We find this information in <strong>Luke 16:14</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">heard all these things: and they derided him.</span></strong>&#8220;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The next verse says, Jesus speaking, <em>&#8220;and He said to them&#8230;&#8221;</em>. So to whom was He speaking? To the Pharisees, then in the next few verses He gives this parable. This might not seem important but as we look at the beliefs of the Pharisees we will see how this all makes sense. Had Jesus been talking to another group of people the parable would not have made sense. Perhaps why some of us today have a hard time understanding it.</p>
<p>Before we go there notice the last part of Luke 16:14. The Pharisees derided Christ and rebuked Him for eating with and being around &#8220;sinners&#8221;. Keep this in mind as you read the parable and see the rich man eating from His table, yet not stooping one inch to give a morsel of food to the poor man.  Could there be a parallel? I think there is, I think Jesus was attempting to show the Pharisees that they may have been entrusted the &#8220;bread&#8221; of life but the poor man was doing what was right not them. What is clear is that the Pharisees believed that they were above other people, that they were more important and righteous&#8230; that these other people were sinners and dogs&#8230; and that is what they actually called them.<br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><strong>The Views of the Pharisees on the Afterlife</strong></span><br />
In the <em>War of the Jews</em> By Flavius Josephus he states:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;They [the Pharisees] say that all souls are incorruptible, but that the souls of good<br />
men only are removed into other bodies, &#8211; but that the souls of bad men<br />
are subject to eternal punishment. But the Sadducees&#8230; </em>take away the belief<br />
of the immortal duration of the soul, and the punishments and rewards in Hades.<em>&#8220;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The Sadducees  did not believe in the immortality of the soul, they did not believe in the afterlife at all. The Pharisees however believed that all souls are incorruptible and therefore the immortality of the soul. Bear with me, this is a crucial point to understanding this parable.</p>
<p>The Bible corroborates this observation that Josephus is expressing in <strong>Acts 23:8</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So we notice that Jesus is not only using a parable created by the Rabbis but He is also using their belief system to present a great truth.</p>
<p>We also find that even Jesus&#8217; disciples had adopted this false view that their are ghosts or spirits of the dead hovering on the earth.  Notice <strong>Mark 6:49</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>But when they saw him walking upon the sea, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out</strong></span>:&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So even Christ&#8217;s disciples had assimilated this idea of a dis-incarnate soul&#8230; now lets look at Josephus&#8217; explanation of Hades to get an idea of what the Pharisees believed about it.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>The Pharisaic Idea of Hell</strong></span><br />
Josephus, who was himself a Pharisee, described the nature of Hades in his work <em>Discourse to the Greeks Concerning Hades</em>. There he described Hades as a subterraneous region consisting of two sections. The first section contained everlasting fire. The angels took the wicked to this region upon the moment of death. The second section of Hades consisted of a place which was called the Bosom of Abraham. Josephus affirms that there was a great gulf fixed between<br />
the two sections so that the righteous could not pass to the fiery region nor the wicked to the Bosom of Abraham.<br />
You might at first be inclined to believe that they got this idea from Jesus parable but this is not the case. Jewish writings show that the Pharisees held this view prior to Christ. Knowing this helps us realize that Jesus didn&#8217;t create a life-like story but distorted a popular parable to present a crucial truth to the Pharisees.</p>
<p>There is however no place in the Bible which even vaguely suggests such a scenario. In fact Christians today who believe in the immortality of the soul generally do not believe this is really how it is&#8230; they only use the parable to &#8220;prove&#8221; that dead souls live on after death.  Anyways, this whole picture of Hades was created by the rabbis. In the parable, however, Jesus took what the Pharisees believed and gave it a surprising twist!</p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>New Testament View of Life After Death</strong></span><br />
Now that we have seen the Pharisaic view of life after death and hell and seen how the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus is very similar to that, lets take a look at the New Testament view of life after death. According to Jesus, where do people go when they die? Lets look at <strong>John 5:28,29</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">all that are in the graves shall hear his voice</span></strong>,<br />
<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">And shall come forth</span></strong>; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.&#8221; </em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Why would Jesus call them out of their graves if they are already in the bosom of Abraham or in the lake of fire? And BTW the Bible is clear in 1 Corinthians 15:51-55 that we are changed at the second coming and that this mortal MUST put on immortality to go to heaven. So we are not coming back with our souls at the second coming (those of us who die before that) to get our old bodies. This is non biblical. The Bible teaches that we are changed at Christ&#8217;s second coming.</p>
<p>Looking at other examples in the new testament, each one is clear concerning when the wicked are cast into the lake of fire, and that is at the end of the age, after Jesus comes. Take a look at Matthew 13:4-43 for example:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">so shall it be in the end of this world.</span></strong><br />
The Son of man <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">shall send forth his angels</span></strong>, and <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,</span></strong> and them which do iniquity;<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>And shall cast them into a furnace of fire</strong></span>: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.<br />
<strong>Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun</strong> in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.&#8221;</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>So when does this take place?<em> &#8220;in the <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>end</strong></span> of this world&#8221;</em> and the wicked are then<em> &#8220;cast into a furnace of fire&#8221;</em> so does the Bible teach the view that the Pharisees held? No it does not, the Bible says that the wicked are cast into the lake of fire at the end of the world. The Pharisees believed that it happens at death. Verse #43 also says <em>&#8220;<strong>THEN </strong>shall the righteous shine forth as the sun&#8221;</em>. It does not say<em> &#8220;now&#8221;</em> they shine forth or <em>&#8220;at death&#8221;</em> they will shine as the sun&#8230; but it says at the end of the world they shall sine forth. So it cannot happen at the moment of death. This is important because if the Bible does not teach that hell burns today but that it will burn at the end of the world then this parable has to be taken as completely allegorical and not literal at all.</p>
<p>Another reference on the same point:</p>
<p><strong>Matthew 21:31-34</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">When the Son of man shall come in his glory</span></strong>, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:<br />
</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">before him shall be gathered all nations</span></strong>: and <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats</span></strong>:<br />
</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.</span></strong><br />
</em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:&#8221;</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>When does Christ come in all His glory? At our death? No, at His second coming&#8230; The Pharisees said that the separation of the righteous and wicked happens at death&#8230; what does Jesus say? He says very plainly that it happens at His second coming and that THEN the rewards are given. We can&#8217;t be punished in hell for years until Christ comes and then receive our reward can we? Or find ourself enjoying the bliss of heaven for ages and then all of the sudden Gabriel comes up and taps you on the shoulder and says &#8220;Ahem, Randy we got to judge you now and reward you according to your life&#8221;. Does that make sense? No, but it is exactly what many protestants believe.  The Bible teaches however that we are rewarded at the end of the world. Also look at <strong>verses 41 and 46:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me</span></strong>, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:&#8221;</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Ohh, so at death Jesus says to the wicked<em> &#8220;depart from me&#8230; into everlasting fire&#8221;</em>, right? No thats not what the Bible says, the Bible says that it happens at Christ&#8217;s second coming. (Go back to Matthew 21:31-34)  Is it even remotely possible that the wicked who have already died are suffering in the lake of fire? Lets go to <strong>Revelation 21:8</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire</span> and brimstone: <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>which is the second death.&#8221;</strong></span></em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>So Revelation says, the wicked are going to burn in the lake of fire&#8230; but when does this happen? Ohh at their second death&#8230; do you need a first death to have a second death? Yes, so can the wicked be tormented today in the <em>&#8220;lake of fire&#8221;</em>? No because the Bible says that is the second death&#8230; also important to think about. Would it be just to have wicked people burning today? No it would not and here is why. Someone who died 5000 years ago who never gave their life to Christ and was not saved, but who never hurt anyone else, never murdered or anything, is it fair that they should sit burning in hell for thousands of years till Hitler is thrown in? How utterly unjust would that be?  Write me and ask me to do a series on hell fire, it is an amazing study!</p>
<p><strong>Matthew 24:31</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.</span></strong>&#8220;</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Again this takes place at the <em>&#8220;great sound of a trumpet&#8221;</em> which is at the second coming.  And to whom are we gathered? Into Abraham&#8217;s bosom? Absolutely not, we are <cite id="1 Thes 4 17" class="wp-caption" title="1 Thessalonians 4:17">&#8220;caught up together&#8221;</cite> to meet Christ in the air. Jesus also says <cite id="john14 3 4" class="wp-caption" title="John 14:3-4"><em>&#8220;in my fathers house are many mansions&#8230; and I will&#8230; receive you unto myself&#8221;</em></cite> &#8211; so there is no such idea that we are gathered unto Abraham&#8217;s bosom. This is a Pharisaic idea derived from Greek mythology&#8230; btw the idea of the immortality of the soul also came from Greek mythology. The Bible say that <cite id="1 cor 15 53 54" class="wp-caption" title="1 Corinthians 15:53-54"><em>&#8220;this corruptible must put on incorruption,&#8221;</em></cite> so the Bible doesn&#8217;t teach that view. But if we are going to take this parable literally we must accept all of its theology.</p>
<p>Also have you noticed throughout this parable that dead people are talking to other dead people? Something God strictly forbade throughout the Bible:</p>
<p><strong>Leviticus 20:27</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">shall surely be put to death</span></strong>: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Would God violate His strict instructions against speaking to the dead by allowing Abraham to do it? Absolutely not! God is the <em>&#8220;same yesterday, today and forever&#8221;</em> and does not change.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>Souls, Bodies and Extra Limbs</strong></span><br />
An interesting part of this parable is the fact that those who are supposedly dead have all their body parts. Souls, or at least the idea people have of them, do not have body parts, yet Abraham, the rich man and Lazarus have their body parts.  Interesting stuff! But what does the Bible say happens to our bodies at death?</p>
<p><strong>Genesis 3:19</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return</span></strong>.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So at death our body returns to dust and we rest until our maker and king calls us forth. But lets look at the version depicted in the parable:</p>
<p><strong>Luke 16:23</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>in hades he lift up his eyes</strong></span>, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.&#8221;</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Wait a second, when he died where did his eyes go? Eyes are part of the body&#8230; they went to the grave and returned to dust.  But here in the parable he has eyes&#8230; btw the parable does not say that he <em>&#8220;immediately&#8221;</em> went to hell, in fact the word is actually &#8220;hades&#8221; which means grave and has no relation to hell. That is assumed by most readers, that as soon as he died he immediately went to hell. Josephus believed it was immediately but when Christ told this parable He left that part out&#8230; He was attempting to use their own parable to present a truth. That truth was not that souls goto hell at death because as we will soon see Christ did not believe that.</p>
<p><strong>Luke 16:24</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may <span style="text-decoration: underline;">dip the tip of his finger</span> in water, and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">cool my tongue</span>; for I am tormented in this flame.&#8221;</em> </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Ahh so Lazarus has fingers? Ohh and the rich man has a tongue? </span>I thought that went to the grave at death.<br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><strong><br />
What is the Biblical teaching of what is cast into hell? Is it the body or the soul only?</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Matthew  5:29,30</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.</span></strong></em></span></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #ff0000;">And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.&#8221;</span></em></p></blockquote>
<p>So how much of a wicked person goes to hell? The whole body! The Bible says -that the body is thrown into hell after Christ comes in His glory and that is the second death so this parable cannot be literal.</p>
<p>What is interesting is Robert Morey&#8217;s comments on this parable in his book <em>&#8220;Death and the Afterlife&#8221;</em>&#8230; Robert Morey firmly believes in an immortal soul so based on his views his comments on this parable are a bit surprising:</p>
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<blockquote><p><em><cite id="deathafterlifepg8485" class="wp-caption" title="Death and the Afterlife Pg. 84 &amp; 85">&#8230;It does not bother us in the least to say that <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Christ used a rabbinic story and dialogue in Luke 16:19-31 which was not &#8220;true&#8221; or &#8220;real&#8221; in the sense of being literal</span></strong>. It is obvious that Lazarus <strong>did not literally sit in Abraham&#8217;s literal bosom</strong>. The rich man did not have literal lips which literal water could quench.<br />
What is important for us to grasp is that <strong>Christ used the mental images conjured up by this rabbinic parable to teach</strong> that, in the hereafter, the wicked experience torment and the righteous bliss. This is clear from the rabbinic sources from which he drew this parable.<br />
Since the dialogue between the rich man and Abraham <strong>was a teaching tool used by the rabbis before Christ, it is obvious that Christ was not trying to teach that we will talk with the wicked in the hereafter</strong>. He was merely using the dialogue method to get across the concept that there is no escape from torment, no second chance, and we must believe the Scriptures in this life unto salvation.</cite><br />
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<p>Robert Morey who believes in the immortality of the soul, that the souls of the righteous go to heaven at death and that the souls of the wicked go to hell at death, even he is forced to acknowledge that this parable was neither intended to be literal nor can it be taken thus and that it never actually took place.  So the only story in the whole Bible that could be used to substantiate the souls of the dead suffering in hell at death cannot be used because it never took place (not to mention the theological problems it poses if taken literally)</p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>Abraham&#8217;s Bosom&#8230;</strong></span><br />
If we can establish that this parable never took place,  and that it is not to be taken literally, and I believe we have done that, we have succeeded only slightly&#8230; for we still need to discover the purpose of the parable. What does it mean? Lets start with the bosom. What does that represent? We know now that Lazarus was not literally taken to the bosom of Abraham but it must have some meaning&#8230; if we hold a baby close to us we are holding it close to our bosom, right? What would that seem to symbolize? Both closeness and the fact that the baby is perhaps our own?</p>
<p><strong>John 1:18</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">which is in the bosom of the Father</span>, he hath declared him.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Is Jesus really in the bosom of God the father? No, so this expression must indicate closeness. Think about this for a minute&#8230; Abraham was told to sacrifice Isaac, and he did as God told him. Isaac was his only son and he offered him up himself&#8230; this is a parallel to God the father and Jesus Christ so in the parable it is not a literal bosom of Abraham but symbolic of God the father&#8230; make sense? Nothing new really, commentators for ages have paralleled the Abraham-Isaac story to Jesus dieing on the cross.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>The Rich Man</strong></span><br />
Who was the rich man representing in this parable? Well lets go to <strong>Luke 16:24 for the answer:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And he cried and said, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Father Abraham</span></strong>, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.&#8221;</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>The rich man cries to who? Now, who claimed Abraham as their father? The Jews, and more particularly the Pharisees who always boasted it as we will note.  Now earlier in this article, who did we find this parable was specifically addressed to? The Pharisees, right? But lets continue in <strong>John 16:25</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em><span style="color: #ff0000;">But <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Abraham said, <strong>Son</strong></span>, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.&#8221;</span></em></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Who would Abraham have called son? His descendants right? So who were his descendants? The Jews! Now this may seem trivial but bear with me&#8230; it all ties together. </span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000000;">John 16:27</span></strong><em><span style="color: #ff0000;"> </span></em></p>
<blockquote><p><em><span style="color: #ff0000;">Then he said, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">I pray thee therefore, <strong>father</strong></span>, that <span style="text-decoration: underline;">thou wouldest send him to my father&#8217;s house</span>:&#8221;</span></em></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>John 16:28,29</strong></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>For <span style="text-decoration: underline;">I have five brethren</span>; that <span style="text-decoration: underline;">he may testify unto them</span>, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">lest they also come into this place of torment</span>.<br />
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Abraham saith unto him</span>, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.</span>&#8220;</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Again the rich man refers to Abraham by the name father.  So it should be clear now by these three verses (Luke 16:24-28) that the rich man in this parable actually represents the Jewish nation and more specifically the pharisees (as we recall this is to whom Jesus was talking when giving this parable). But the rich man desires Abraham to send Lazarus from the dead to his brothers to warn them. But Abraham says <em>&#8220;they have Moses and the prophets&#8221;</em>, now who had Moses and the prophets? Again, that would be the Jewish nation would it not? But more specifically, again the Pharisees prided themselves on this fact.</p>
<p>I also believe that these five brothers could represent the different denominations of the Jewish nation, which would be the Pharisees, Sadducees, Herodians, Essenes, Scribes. I can&#8217;t prove it but it makes sense just the same.  But however you slice it his brothers (that is the rich man&#8217;s brothers) are those who have Moses and the prophets.</p>
<p><strong>John 16:30</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And he said, Nay, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">father Abraham</span></strong>: <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.&#8221;</strong></span></em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>The rich man is asking Abraham to send Lazarus from the dead&#8230; so did the rich man believe in the immortality of the soul? Yes he did.</p>
<p>Now we get to <strong>John 16:31</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And he said unto him, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded</span>, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>though</strong> <strong>one rose</strong> from the dead.&#8221;</span></em></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Does Jesus believe in the immortality of the soul? No he does not, watch this carefully.. the rich man says, <em>&#8220;send Lazarus <span style="text-decoration: underline;">from</span> the dead&#8221;</em> and Jesus says no I will send one who has <span style="text-decoration: underline;">risen</span> from the dead*, so Jesus did not believe in the immortality of the soul. Someone is bound to say, <em>&#8220;ohh but that is a technicality&#8221;</em> &#8211; but no it isn&#8217;t. Verse 31 has a extra Greek word, <em>anistēmi</em> which is rose, that is not used in verse 30.</p>
<p>*Abraham is talking in the parable and denies the request&#8230; Jesus is talking THROUGH the parable and soon after the telling of this parable Jesus does raise a man named Lazarus from the dead.</p>
<p>So the rich man represents the Jewish nation but more accurately the Pharisees.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>Lazarus</strong></span><br />
One of the arguments people will use to justify saying this is not just a parable but an actual story is that a proper name is given.  They say that parables never have proper names, for instance &#8220;a certain man&#8221; etc.  So the question is, why would you have a proper name if this is a parable? I believe that Jesus used an exact name to predict the raising of Lazarus which happened a very short time after this parable was told.  We will look at this in a moment.</p>
<p><strong>Lets look at Matthew 15:26-27</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children&#8217;s <span style="text-decoration: underline;">bread</span>, and to cast it to <span style="text-decoration: underline;">dogs</span>.<br />
And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">crumbs which fall from their masters&#8217; table</span>.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Do you remember in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus that the poor man Lazarus ate the crumbs that fell from the rich man&#8217;s table and the dogs licked his sores? Now lets look at another passage of scripture which uses strikingly similar language. In Matthew 15:26-27 Jesus is talking to a Canaanite woman. Why Jesus used this language is because He was showing His disciples how they treated &#8220;gentiles&#8221;. It was common for Jews to call them dogs.</p>
<p>So when Jesus uses the same terminology in His parable He is trying to express a very important point, that the Canaanite woman represents Lazarus. Those gentiles, Samaritans, Canaanites, whatever they were called, they were desiring to be fed of even the crumbs from the Jews. Remember the story of the Samaritan woman, she gathered the whole town to hear Christ? (you can read the story in John 4) But did the Jews present the truths they had been entrusted with to these people? Absolutely not! That is why time and time again Christ employs parable after parable to show them they were wrong.  It was Jesus first mission to the <em>&#8220;lost sheep of the house of Israel&#8221;</em> that they would then turn and take the message to the world. This was the whole reason for the nation of Israel&#8217;s existence. But they failed!</p>
<p>You find that throughout the gospels it was the gentiles who were most willing and earnest to hear the truth. They were also much more loving then many of the Jews. For instance the parable in Luke 10 of the man that was robbed and left by the road to die, who was the only one who would help the man?</p>
<p><strong>Luke 10:33</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Only a Samaritan would help the man. And Luke seems to be harping on this point, in fact his is the only gospel to record the rich man and Lazarus parable. Why? Because he knew what it meant. That is why he records these encounters of Jesus with Samaritans and Canaanites.</p>
<p><strong>Luke 17:16</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>In this story 10 lepers are healed by Christ but only one returns with gratitude. And that one was a Samaritan!</p>
<p>Now let me give you the account of the Rich Man and Lazarus parable as many Christians read it, by adding their own thoughts that are not found in the parable. Words in brackets are the way many people read the parable but are not found in the Biblical account.</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and <span style="color: #000000;">[his soul]</span> was carried <span style="color: #000000;">[immediately]</span> by the angels into Abraham&#8217;s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; </em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And in hades he lift up his eyes, being in <span style="color: #000000;">[everlasting</span><span style="color: #000000;">]</span> torments <span style="color: #000000;">[in the flames of hell]</span>, and seeth Abraham afar off, and <span style="color: #000000;">[the soul of]</span> Lazarus in his bosom. </em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>And <span style="color: #000000;">[his soul</span><span style="color: #000000;">]</span> cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on <span style="color: #000000;">[my soul]</span>, and send <span style="color: #000000;">[the soul of]</span> Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for <span style="color: #000000;">[my soul is]</span> tormented in this <span style="color: #000000;">[everlasting] </span>flame. </em></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now <span style="color: #000000;">[his soul]</span> is comforted, and <span style="color: #000000;">[thy soul]</span> is tormented.</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="color: #000000;">None of those words immediately, soul, everlasting, hell are in this parable&#8230; true some translations render the word <cite class="wp-caption" title="properly unseen, that is, “Hades” or the place (state) of departed souls: - grave">hades</cite> as hell in verse 23 but that is not what it means. The word only means grave.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="color: #000000;">But more importantly perhaps is the reason Jesus used the proper name for Lazarus.  Only a short time after telling this parable Jesus did raise a Lazarus from the dead. You can read the account in John 11. We will pick up the account in </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>John 11:43-44, 46-48<br />
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<blockquote><p><em>And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.<br />
And <span style="text-decoration: underline;">he that was dead came forth</span>, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, <span style="color: #ff0000;">Loose him, and let him go.&#8221;</span></em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>But some of them went away to the Pharisees, and told them the things which Jesus had done.<br />
The chief priests therefore and the <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Pharisees gathered a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many signs.</span></strong><br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him</strong></span>: and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>In John 12:10 we find a startling fact that rings back to the Rich Man and Lazarus parable and forever sets straight the reason for it in the first place.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>But the chief priests took counsel <span style="text-decoration: underline;">that they might put Lazarus also to death</span>; </em></p></blockquote>
<p>The Pharisees wanted to kill Lazarus&#8230; they wanted him to die again. Why? Well because he was preaching that Jesus raised him and many Jews were believing on him but the Pharisees hardened their hearts. They would not believe! So the parable rings true, <em>&#8220;If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>if one rise from the dead</strong></span>&#8220;</em></p>
<p>Christ gave them ample warning, He tried to get them to repent but they would not. This was the whole purpose of this entire parable to prove that He was the Messiah by predicting the raising of Lazarus and use it to bring them to repentance but they hardened their hearts. Therefore to say that it proves that souls go to heaven or hell at death is clearly taking it out of context and also going against scripture after scripture that teach the direct opposite.</p>
<p>Remember that the Biblical principle for understanding scripture is found in Isaiah 28:10 which says <em>&#8220;For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: &#8221; </em>Notice Isaiah repeats himself, what does this mean? He is essentially saying you cannot take one verse and base a theology on it. You must take all the scriptures on a subject. So the correct way to study the Bible is to base our doctrines on a <em>&#8220;multitude of counsel&#8221;</em>, not on one scripture alone or in this case one parable.  If you have already read my previous article on what happens after death then you have seen the Biblical evidence supports the view that the dead sleep until Christ comes, when they are raised, the righteous are given immortal bodies and the wicked destroyed. So when we come to this parable we need to find out how the Bible deals with it and not just assume it must be literal.  I hope that through this somewhat lengthy article I have proven that this is just a parable and what the real intent and message Jesus was attempting to portray.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>Quick Overview</strong></span><br />
Not intended to replace the content of this article. I have tried to highlight parts of the article but if you don&#8217;t read the whole thing you will not have the proof only the conclusion.</p>
<p><strong>#1. Literal or Symbolic?</strong> If as some would have us believe this parable must be taken literally then how do you deal with Jesus using various phrases (such as &#8220;the Bosom of Abraham&#8221;) and images such as a deep chasm separating this &#8220;underworld&#8221; which are only found outside the Bible? In fact these terms are only found in 1st Century Jewish mythology. You also have souls with fingers, tongues and eyes&#8230; insinuating they are not souls at all but whole bodies.</p>
<p><strong>#2. Why Did Jesus Tell the Story? </strong>- While this is a parable the name Lazarus does hold significance.  According to Christian historians the telling of this parable would have taken place only a short time before a man named Lazarus was actually raised from the dead. If you read John 11:45-51 you find that the Pharisees would not believe on Christ even after the raising of Lazarus. Which points to Abraham in the parable saying <em>&#8220;</em><em>If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead&#8221;</em> &#8211; and so THAT is the whole point of this entire parable. That &#8220;though&#8221; someone could come back from the dead (making the logical assumption that they don&#8217;t) it would not convince those hardened in rebellion. Because Jesus did raise someone from the dead and they still did not believe.</p>
<p><strong>#3. Father God or Father Abraham?</strong> &#8211; In the parable you have Jesus examining the misguided reverence of the Jewish leaders for Abraham&#8230; Lazarus prays to Abraham even though the Bible is very clear that we pray only to God. In Revelation 19:10 John tries to worship an angel and is strictly forbidden&#8230; do you really think that God has a place deep inside the earth where he has a &#8220;purgatory&#8221; where dead wicked people pray to Abraham and dead living people remain in Abraham&#8217;s bosom? How many people can literally fit in Abraham&#8217;s bosom? The Bible teaches of a heaven where the righteous are caught up and at His second coming when the wicked will be destroyed in hell fire.  If we take this parable literally we must also realize that with it comes the realization that it drastically contradicts other Biblical teachings such as the state of the dead which leads me to point #4</p>
<p><strong>#4. How can you know you know nothing? &#8211; </strong>The popular belief among Christians is that the dead go to heaven at death. In fact you will never hear any preacher at a funeral sending anyone to hell, not even the vilest of men. They are all sent straight to heaven&#8230; this however is not what the Bible teaches, in fact this belief stems from pagan mythology.</p>
<p><strong>Ecclesiastes 9:5</strong> says <em> </em></p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;For the living know that they shall die: <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">but the dead know not any thing</span></strong>, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>If the dead<em> &#8220;know not any thing&#8221;</em> then they cannot communicate in the grave, therefore this parable must be symbolic and given as a message and therefore not intended to be taken literally.  For further <a href="http://www.ebibleanswers.com/blog/do-you-go-straight-to-heaven-when-you-die/">proof that the dead are in their graves click here</a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably one of the most controversial topics among people today is what happens to a person after they die. Are the dead really dead? Do they know anything, do they go straight to heaven when they die are they sent to purgatory or even s0me other place&#8230; maybe even hell? The fact is we all [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably one of the most controversial topics among people today is what happens to a person after they die. Are the dead really dead? Do they know anything, do they go straight to heaven when they die are they sent to purgatory or even s0me other place&#8230; maybe even hell? The fact is we all know that our bodies are terminal, we will someday die, this is a question we all just be desiring an answer to. What consolation and insight does the Bible give to us on the subject of death? Does the Bible clearly give an answer to the above questions? Can we truly be certain what happens to the dead? I firmly believe we can, so join me in this study as we uncover the truth about death.</p>
<p>As always I ask that you pray before you study, ask God to lead and guide you as you study this important topic. That His light will clearly show the truth&#8230; the Bible says His word is a light unto our path. And He has promised that the truth will set us free. So as we study this topic let us be open to the truth of God and what the scriptures say.</p>
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<p>Alexander Bogomoletz, a Russian scientist, once said that a man should live to be at least 150 years of age. He actually prepared a serum that was designed to retard the aging process of the connective tissues of the body. Unfortunately, the learned doctor died at the age of 64, just 86 years short of the goal he had set for himself and for all mankind. And we still do not understand the mysteries of life and death.</p>
<p>What does the Bible actually teach about the human existence, are we immortal beings with a temporary stop after death? Do we even live on past our death, or do we sleep eternally never more to rise? Thankfully the Bible sheds light on the subject.</p>
<p>Hebrews 9:26-27 gives us a blessed  hope to look forward to&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Please read that verse carefully, you will note that it states that judgment comes after death&#8230; there are apparently two conclusions two this verse. First, when a person dies they go straight to heaven or some other place where they are judged and then they are sent to either heaven or hell after they have been processed for shipment. The second option is that there is one judgment when all the dead will be judged together&#8230; if this latter idea is indeed what the Bible teaches then it would stand to reason that the dead would remain in the ground right? But we know that the Bible interprets itself so lets keep studying&#8230;</p>
<p>When studying the scriptures we must build scripture upon scripture, precept upon precept. This is the surest way of knowing the truth and it is what the Bible teaches us to do. If we base our belief on a doctrine solely on one verse in the Bible there is a good chance we have taken it out of context, but if we study all the verses on a subject we find the truth. So lets see if the Bible has a consistent teaching on the judgment coming after death. Lets turn to 2 Corinthians 5:10</p>
<blockquote><p><em>For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<p>These verses are clear about one thing, sometime after death there is a judgment of mankind&#8230; but we still have not seen clear evidence of when this judgment will take place. If we ended our study at this point we could be quite confused, but thankfully the Bible is not illusive.</p>
<p>To find the answer to the question, when will the judgment take place, lets turn to 2 Thessalonians 1:3-10 &#8211; we will pick it up in verses 7-10</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I think these verses make it clear that there is a judgment at Christ&#8217;s coming when the dead will be punished for their deeds and the righteous will be taken to heaven&#8230; but some could argue this is just for those who are alive at the time of Christ&#8217;s appearing and does not include the dead. This is a valid point&#8230; but if we turn to 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 we find that it clears that question right up as well&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>13)<strong> </strong><em>But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>14) <em>For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>15) <em>For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.</span></em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>16) <em>For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the dead in Christ <strong>shall rise first</strong></span>:</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>17) <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds</span>, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>18) <em>Wherefore comfort one another with these words&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Are we all together on verse 13, that Jesus is referring to death when He uses the word sleep? I will get into that more later in the article when we get into Lazarus&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>For those of you who like the basic English, the Basic English Bible translates verse 15 by saying those who are alive will not precede those who are sleeping.</p>
<p>Lets analyze these verses&#8230; those of us who are privileged to live up till the very day of Christ&#8217;s appearing will not precede those who have fallen asleep prior to this time&#8230; what does this mean? That the dead have gone up first? Verse 16 tells us very clearly&#8230; it says &#8220;<em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">the dead in Christ shall rise first&#8221;</span></em><em> &#8211; </em>is that not clear? We will not go before those who have died, but not because they are in heaven already, because they will arise out of their graves before we are taken into the air.  So many pastors and teachers quote this verse out of context and miss the truth it so clearly teaches&#8230; if only they would read the whole chapter they would see the whole picture.<br />
For reiteration of this fact lets turn to 1 Corinthians 15:51-52</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the dead shall be raised</span> incorruptible, and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">we shall be changed</span>&#8220;</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em>I love the KJV and generally it is what I use but I like for this verse anyways how the God&#8217;s Word Translation says it:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>It will happen in an instant, in a split second at the sound of the last trumpet. Indeed, that trumpet will sound, and then the dead will come back to life. They will be changed so that they can live forever&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em>Note: they will be changed SO THAT they can live forever&#8230; the Bible tells us in Romans 6:23 that the gift of God is eternal life&#8230; that is immortality. We are mortal beings and when we die that is the end&#8230; our only hope is the resurrection of the dead at the last trump. And I might add that is hope enough&#8230; but until we are changed we can not live forever, not until we are given immortal bodies can we reign in heaven. And we are told in these verses that will only happen when Christ comes.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find anyway to interpret these verses other then their literal sense, that the dead sleep until Christ comes, He resurrects them, changes them by giving them new immortal bodies and then takes us all to heaven. But for those of you who are still not sure, perhaps you have been taught all your life, that the dead go straight to heaven when they die. Wanting valid proof from the Bible is a good thing, so lets look at some other verses which reiterate some of these facts we are learning.</p>
<p>Acts 2:29</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Its almost as if Peter feels the need to reiterate the same thought, which can easily be reconciled by the studying the Pharisees who believed and taught that you went to heaven when you died.</p>
<p>Acts 2:34</p>
<blockquote><p><em>For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em> </em>John 5:28-29</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which <span style="text-decoration: underline;">all who are in the graves</span> will hear His voice and come forth &#8212; those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<p><em>Ecclesiastes 9:5</em></p>
<blockquote><p><em>For the living know that they shall die: but <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the dead know not any thing</span>, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">neither have they any more a reward</span>; for the memory of them is forgotten&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Two things to note, first the dead know nothing, if they are either in hell or heaven they would know it right? Secondly they have no reward, Christ is clear that when they are judged they get their reward, whether they are righteous or wicked&#8230; so  if they have not been rewarded or judged then they can&#8217;t be sent to either heaven or hell can they?</p>
<p>There are some Christians who trying to make the Biblical description work for what they believe say that when Christ comes in  that resurrection day, when the dead will be raised God brings the dead back from heaven and they return for their bodies&#8230; the fallacy of this statement can be clearly seen in 1st Corinthians 15:52 we quoted above, we are all going to be changed in the twinkling of an eye AT the second resurrection&#8230; does this mean that until Christ comes back the righteous dead who went to heaven have their old bodies? That is ridiculous&#8230; the fact is friends the Bible no where teaches that the dead do anything but sleep till the resurrection of Christ.</p>
<p>There are a few verses that Christians use to try and explain the inconsistency between what the Bible teaches and what man teaches&#8230; they quote verses such as Luke 23:43</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee Today, thou shalt be with me in paradise&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The problem is how most people quote it, they put the comma in the wrong place. You see,  when the Bible is teaching and reiterating a fact such as the dead know nothing, that they sleep until the resurrection, they have no reward till they are judged, and that they will be raised at the second coming, when we have all these reiterations and one lone verse appearing to discredit the rest it is usually our false perception of that verse. For instance the verse above, if we put the comma after the word &#8216;today&#8217; then it clearly fits into the teaching of the other verses we provided. If we put it before today then it contradicts the rest of the Bible. In the Hebrew language there are no commas so when the translators made the translation they had the misunderstanding that the dead went to paradise after death(the righteous anyways) and so they misplaced the comma. The Bible has never contradicted itself however many it his attempts to interpret the Bible sometimes does. We need to be careful that we don&#8217;t base out theology on one verse if the rest of the Bible teaches something different.</p>
<p><strong>But what about the spirit of the dead? Doesn&#8217;t the Bible say the spirit returns to God?</strong><br />
Yes it does&#8230; lets read hat verse now. Lets turn to Ecclesiastes 12:7</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the spirit shall return unto God who gave it</span>&#8220;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>You need to pay close attention to this verse&#8230; the teaching among Christians generally is that there is a paradise and a hell where the righteous and wicked go, respectively after death. But this verse does not make any delineation between wicked or righteous, it says all who die, their spirits return to God. And in the previous verses we have looked at, we have learned that not everyone goes to heaven. So I guess to solve this we need to ask the question, what is this spirit?</p>
<p>The original Hebrew word for spirit in this verse is ruach pronounced pretty close to how it sounds&#8230; interestingly in the original Hebrew it means <em>wind; by resemblance breath, figuratively life</em>. In other words this spirit is actually the life of the individual, the breath of the human, when the spirit leaves them they die.  I also want you to notice the verse stating &#8220;return&#8221; twice, the dust which is our bodies returns to the earth and the spirit which is our life returns to God&#8230; none of us as of yet have been to heaven, so if this verse means the spirit goes to heaven we are returning to a place we have never been? This is in fact talking about our life that God has blessed each of us with and does not mean that <em>we</em> go to heaven.</p>
<p>If you goto James 2:26 it says <em>&#8220;For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also&#8221;<br />
</em>This word spirit is the Greek word pneuma but means the same thing as the word Ruach and that is breath or air. It is actually where we get the word Pneumatic or Pneumonia today.</p>
<p>But to wrap up this whole question of what the spirit is we need to go back to the beginning. Lets read Genesis 2:7 to get a better understanding of what this verse is talking about when it talks about the spirit or breath of a human.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And the LORD God <span style="text-decoration: underline;">formed man of the dust of the ground</span>, and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">breathed into his nostrils the breath of life</span>; and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">man became a living soul</span>&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Question! Before God breathing life into Adam, was Adam&#8217;s spirit floating around somewhere in some conscience or sub-conscience state? I would think most of us would say not, yet we believe somehow after death that our spirit floats around somewhere without our bodies&#8230;</p>
<p>This spirit which we now know is our breath which is in our nostrils COMBINED with the body&#8230; we all should be on the same page here. That is how we breath right? It doesn&#8217;t take a great deal of knowledge to understand that when we are not breathing we are dead. And since God has only lent us the breath we use it is only logical that when we die it returns to Him, the giver. Does that make sense?</p>
<p>There is something in the above verse many miss even though it is staring them right in the face&#8230; the verse says that God formed man out of the dust of the ground AND breathed into Adam&#8217;s nostrils and THEN &#8220;man became a living soul&#8221; &#8211; God did not add a living soul to Adam, the Bible doesn&#8217;t say &#8220;and then Adam had a living soul&#8221; &#8211; the Bible says that Adam BECAME a living soul. This is VERY significant because it is the unite, the body AND the breath that creates the soul. When we die the body is separated from the breath, neither one exists without the other&#8230; the body rots away and the breath returns to heaven from whence it came. I can&#8217;t overstress the importance of this fact, we are only living conscious beings when the body is united with the living breath of God&#8230; separated we are in a state called death where we know nothing.</p>
<p>Paul say in Romans that the gift of God is eternal life? That is the same thing as immortality, we are mortal beings, when we die our thoughts cease, our breath and life returns to God cause HE is the one who gave it, it does not mean there are thousands of floating spirits without bodies in heaven waiting for the resurrection when they can return to earth, grab their old bodies and then have them changed into new&#8230; truthfully does that make any sense? Not to me it doesn&#8217;t&#8230; I hope we are all on the same page on the spirit of a body now, I think that Genesis has made it quite clear that the spirit = body + breath = life.  So body &#8211; breath = death. If you want more verses supporting this just email me.</p>
<p>But I want to reiterate this fact one last time so there is no doubt in your mind&#8230; lets turn to Psalm 104:29</p>
<blockquote><p><em>29) Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their <span style="text-decoration: underline;">breath</span>, they die, and return to their dust<br />
</em></p></blockquote>
<p>If you look at the original Hebrew the word breath in this text is the same exact word used in Ecclesiastes which was interpreted there as spirit. It is the word Ruach which again means breath&#8230; in the Bible they are interchangeable because the translators used both spirit and breath at different times but it was always the same Hebrew word. So the only reason there is controversy is because the original translators didn&#8217;t know how to translate the word in different situations.</p>
<p>Let me try and use an allegory I heard  another preacher use, lets assume there are nails and a board&#8230; we have two items. Now lets say we take a hammer and nail the nails into the boards creating a box&#8230; we now have 1 item. Now if we were to pull those nails out what will have happened to the box? It ceased to exist because like the living spirit it requires two things together to be&#8230; the box required the nails and boards together just like the living spirit requires the breath of God and the human body to become living.  I am sorry if I am reiterating this so much, I guess I am afraid your like me, you have been told something all your life or have believed something and it is hard to wrap your mind around something new&#8230; and when we get set in our ways sometimes we have to have someone hammer something home before we say &#8220;ahh I get it&#8230; that makes sense&#8221; &#8211; but if it is the truth we must accept it even if it goes against everything we believe or perhaps want to believe.</p>
<p>I will give you two more verses to look up for yourself for further study of this&#8230; Revelation 16:3 talks about the living soul dieing,  this makes it clear that the living soul is the unity of breath and body which is the mortal body&#8230; nothing more.</p>
<p>Ecclesiastes 3:19, 20 states that all have the same breath&#8230; animals and man alike. That man has no preeminence over beast when he dies&#8230; that is to say if man&#8217;s &#8220;spirit&#8221; floats around somewhere then the animals spirits must as well&#8230; what this verse is really saying is that once we die whether it is a man or beast we turn to dirt, our life leaves us and we cease to be a living soul until Christ returns&#8230; this is the only concept which is inline with the rest of the Bible and because of that we must accept it&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>When are the just rewarded?</strong></p>
<p>Okay so we don&#8217;t goto heaven/paradise or hell when we die&#8230; then when are we rewarded for our works?  Lets turn to Luke 14:14 and see what Jesus said:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">t</span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">hou shalt be recompensed <strong>AT </strong>the resurrection of the just </span></em></p></blockquote>
<p>As far as I am concerned one verse of Jesus stating that the just are rewarded at the resurrection of the earth is enough but the Bible has many such verses reiterating this fact such as Matthew 16:27. The great thing about the Bible is that when God presents a truth He has it reiterated across the Bible so that we can see it clearly. We don&#8217;t have to guess about anything.</p>
<p>Matthew 16:27</p>
<blockquote><p><em>For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">then he shall reward every man according to his works</span> </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Revelation 22:12 carries this same thought:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And, behold, I come quickly; and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">my reward is with me</span>, to give every man according as his works shall be”</em><em> </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Paul has perhaps a more enlightening writing on this&#8230; lets read it in 1st Corinthians 15:53</p>
<blockquote><p><em>For this corruptible <span style="text-decoration: underline;">must</span> put on incorruption, and this mortal <span style="text-decoration: underline;">must</span> put on immortality</em><em>&#8220;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this verse the verse right before it(1 Corinthians 15:52) that we looked at earlier? We CANNOT go to heaven until we are changed from corruptible, mortal beings to incorruptible immortal beings&#8230; when does this happen, at death? Fortunately this is covered in the previous verse&#8230; you will recognize it.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">at the last trump</span>: for the trumpet shall sound, and t<span style="text-decoration: underline;">he dead shall be raised incorruptible</span>, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">and we shall be changed</span>&#8220;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t everything fit together like a puzzle? Its interesting when Christians learn this truth, they are like &#8220;how could I of never seen that before?&#8221; &#8211; don&#8217;t feel bad, many of us have come to that position in our lives and it doesn&#8217;t matter. The Bible says God winks at ignorance, it is only when we know the truth and we don&#8217;t accept it that we are in trouble.<br />
We do not become immortal at death, we become immortal beings at the second resurrection. Every single verse we have looked at reiterates this fact&#8230; the reward is given at the second coming, not at death. <em> </em></p>
<p><strong>But when are the wicked rewarded? </strong></p>
<p>2nd Peter 2:9 sheds some light on this as well:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to <span style="text-decoration: underline;">reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment</span> to be punished: </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Ahh so the wicked are<em> reserved </em>or kept till the day of judgement&#8230; if you think about it this is only fair. We just learned that the righteous remain in their graves and are only rewarded when Christ comes&#8230; the dead will also remain in the grave until Christ&#8217;s coming. How do we know this for sure? Do you remember John 5:29 we quoted earlier? Here it is again:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which <span style="text-decoration: underline;">all who are in the graves</span> will hear His voice and come forth &#8212; those who have done good, to the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">resurrection of life</span>, and those who have done evil, to the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">resurrection of condemnation</span>&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Do you see it now? The good are resurrected to life, they are given immortality, the wicked however are resurrected to condemnation. Neither group however has been out of the grave since they died&#8230; this point should be clear in your mind by now&#8230; okay think about this for a minute. The day of judgement is when Christ comes right? That is shown in the above verses, would it be fair for God to punish the wicked in hell or honor the righteous in heaven before their trial? It stands to reason that they would be judged before their reward is given&#8230; does it not?<br />
Do you remember the story of Lazarus the friend of Jesus? And how Mary and Martha sent and asked that Jesus would come heal him? Okay, now we probably all know Lazarus died before Christ came, which we learn at the end of the story was Christ&#8217;s purpose all along.  You can read the story in John 11&#8230;  you will notice in this story Jesus refers to death as a sleep&#8230; we can see this term used in other parts of the new testament in reference to death such as Daniel 12:2 in reference to the resurrection. So there is no confusion on what state Lazarus was in, he was dead&#8230; to prove this Christ waited for 3 days to come and resurrect Lazarus, because according to the Jews up until 3 days after death there was still a chance that the person could return to life, in other words had Christ raised Lazarus from the dead prior to three days passing the people would have claimed he was never dead. But after the 3rd day they would be convinced there was no hope&#8230; Christ did not want anyone to say that Lazarus was not dead, He wanted all the glory for the resurrection of Lazarus.</p>
<p>What is significant, at least in my mind, is that in John 11:43 Christ says &#8220;Lazarus come forth&#8221; &#8211; He didn&#8217;t say &#8220;Lazarus come down&#8221; &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t it be awful if Lazarus had went to heaven, he is walking on the sea of glass and talking to Moses and just enjoying the majestic splendor of all heaven has to offer&#8230; and he hears this faint call from the  earth &#8220;Lazarus come down here&#8221; &#8211; no it can&#8217;t be, God can&#8217;t be calling me back to that dark dismal planet called earth where sin still exists.</p>
<p>Yes, I know I am being a little facetious but I am attempting to make a point here. We have books today which sell millions of copies, books which tell of the author&#8217;s claimed experiences after death.  Interesting to note, most of these books see the authors going to heaven, how many write about their experience in hell?</p>
<p>But anyways, my point is this, we see all these authors presenting their experience yet we find no mention in the Bible of Lazarus&#8217;s experience after death. Had Lazarus went to heaven, hell or some other place would he not have told his story? The Bible is silent on this point cause Lazarus was dead the whole time, he didn&#8217;t go anywhere, hence there is no reason for a story, for he had none.</p>
<p>This was a difficult subject to write an article on, first of all there is so much controversy on where the dead go after death. Then there is so many questions to answer and yet you want an article to be relatively short so as not to lose the attention of your reader. Thankfully you are still reading&#8230; I hope if nothing else this article has drawn you to study the Bible more clearly for yourself. If you are still unsure about this subject we encourage you to email us, we are ready and willing to sit down and study with you personally via email. We want the same thing you do, the Biblical truth on these subjects.</p>
<p>You can email me at randy[at]ebibleanswers[dot]com with any questions you might have. God Bless!</p>
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